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 Tuesday, February 07, 2012 | 13 Rabi al-Awwal 1433
American Muslims
Women behaving badly in mosques
Women in American mosques are loud and messy. They allow their children to run free. They socialize and chatter during khutbas. They rush out after the prayers and don’t participate in cleaning or re-organizing the space. They wear inappropriate clothes, allowing their scarves to slip off their heads, and dousing themselves with strong perfumes. They insist on coming to the mosque while menstruating, and pollute the consecrated space with their unclean presence. These stereotypes about women in mosques are commonplace and especially prevalent in American mosques.
Many Muslim American men attest to seeing or hearing of this behavior during Friday prayers at their local mosques. What eludes the casual observer, like the majority of Muslim men who have never entered or prayed in a women’s prayer section, is the root cause of these problems.

Our community’s perception that women behave badly in mosques is intimately tied to the belief that women’s spirituality and prayers carry less importance than men’s. This collective opinion of female spiritual inferiority has settled into both the ritualistic and social practices of American Muslims, and explains both the dismissive treatment women receive in mosques and, in turn, the behaviors they exhibit because of this ostracization.

The belief is so deeply ingrained in American Muslims that we act upon it in social as well as religious contexts. For instance, even at dinner parties, Muslim men usually socialize in larger, neater, and child-free spaces, and they pray together in congregation. The women, on the other hand, haphazardly pray (or don’t pray) on their own wherever they can find a nook, and are expected to focus their attention on their children and on serving the meals and cleaning up afterwards. This paradigm of male spiritual superiority, which carries into the mosque, where men’s spaces are invariably more spacious, serene, and free of children, creates a deep concern for the many professional Muslim women who are struggling to reconcile the neglect which they experience in mosques with the respect with which they are treated in other contexts.

This treatment of women is in contravention to the Q’uran and Prophetic tradition, which equate the value of men and women’s worship and spirituality. The Q’uran unequivocally states that Allah has reserved His forgiveness and rewards for all people who follow His path. The fact that He explicitly mentions both men and women in each line, rather than just saying “people,” accentuates this gender equality:
Surely the men who submit and the women who submit, and the believing men and the believing women, and the obeying men and the obeying women, and the truthful men and the truthful women, and the patient men and the patient women and the humble men and the humble women, and the almsgiving men and the almsgiving women, and the fasting men and the fasting women, and the men who guard their private parts and the women who guard, and the men who remember Allah much and the women who remember -- Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and a mighty reward (Al-Ahzab 33:35).

Surah Al-Tawbah similarly makes it a point to mention men and women separately:
And (as for) the believing men and the believing women, they are guardians of each other; they enjoin good and forbid evil and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Apostle; (as for) these, Allah will show mercy to them; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise (Al-Tawbah 9:71).

The gender equality affirmed in the Q’uran was apparent in the mosques of the earliest Muslims; the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) led men and women in prayers in the same hall, without walls or separations between genders.

The behavior of Muslim American women in mosques, as well their designated spaces in the mosque, indicate that American Muslims have not internalized these clear standards of equality. The rationale many mosque-goers offer is that because women are louder, less responsible, and less focused on worship, they should be excluded from the main prayer areas. This reasoning erroneously equates the cause with the effect. The real reason why women do not feel invested in their mosques and purportedly behave badly is precisely because they are physically and intellectually separated from the area where the prayers are being conducted and the khutbas delivered..

When women sit in cramped balconies or stuffy basements, separated from the khateeb by walls or partitions, they miss the real impact of the khutba. They cannot see the khateeb, often cannot hear him properly, and cannot directly ask him a question following the lecture. It is no different than listening to the khutbaon the radio at home. The spiritual impact is dulled, and the chatter of other women, who are equally distracted and unconnected due to the physical separation from the speaker, further exacerbates the problem. Furthermore, when the khateeb is out of view, the primary motivation to attend the mosque becomes the ability to socialize with other Muslims. Only by providing women with a direct view of the khateeb will this problem find a resolution.

Another consequence of the erroneous assumption that women’s spirituality does not match that of men’s, is the practice of leaving children with the women. This, again, is not rooted entirely in tradition. There are several hadith indicating that the Prophet would not only welcome children into the men’s section, but would even hold children in his arms or balance them on his shoulders while leading the prayers. It is extremely rare that American Muslim men hold their children during prayers. Most of the so-called children’s sections are usually designed or situated in a way that only mothers can enter and discipline their little ones. Men are therefore absolved of their parental duties, and left free to concentrate on their prayers. Until there are family sections in mosques, where both men and women can monitor their children and where families can pray together, the inequality that results from children being consigned to women only spaces will persist.

Also exacerbating the situation is a tangle of generational and cultural issues. American Muslims immigrants bring the attitudes and expectations of their own culture and generation with them into the mosque. Many neighborhoods in Pakistan, for instance, do not have accommodations for women in the local mosques. When the women from these neighborhoods begin attending mosques in America, they do so without any previous understanding of mosque etiquettes. This problem, of course, is also generational, and it often seems that the women, who were raised here and have gone through the American educational system, have less trouble conforming to mosque etiquette. The concept of listening to lectures, keeping your voice down, organizing groups to enter and exit in an orderly manner, are all inculcated in American school children. The behavior of Muslims bred in American mimics their behavior in educational and professional settings.

As long as the American Muslim community’s perception that women behave badly in mosques remains tied to the erroneous belief that women’s spirituality and prayers are inferior to men’s, we will continue to see the same patterns of behavior recycled again and again—-men (and women) looking on with ill concealed disapproval at cramped, disorganized spaces filled with chattering women and screaming children. Until American Muslims differentiate between the cause and effect of misbehavior at the mosque, rather than conflating the two, there can be no real changes in American mosques.

(Photo: John Raineri)

Uzma Mariam Ahmed is a contributing writer to Altmuslimah


Yes, I know. But if I were to attend a mosque that was divided this way, (down the middle), I would feel more comfortable If there was a barrier of some kind. I have seen a picture of a lecture hall that was divided this way by an openwork musharabia about 6’ high. This would still be aesthetically pleasing. One could still get a sense of the open space of the masjid.



It seems most of the comments here are from adult/grown-up women who are relating the issue(s) to their own personal experiences, likes and dislikes.  What about those who are raising young daughters.  How do you explain to your girls that while they are to compete and strive to be better then others (boys and girls) in every aspect of life (school, work etc) but something about them is so “different” that the moment they enter the mosque door they have to let the boys lead while they (girls) sit in the back of the room?

Telling young impressionable girls to take their mandated place in the back of the “room” cannot possibly be without consequence.  Its got to have some psychological effect on them as they grow-up absorbing this practice, or tradition, of being “behind” boys just because they are girls.



@sharpasand: I think this speaks to the larger issue of the enormous tension between wanting to be religious and wanting not to devalue oneself or family. For example, each Friday I’m asked to accept a number of things I disagree with and strongly feel are not actually mandated by the Quran and Sunnah. Yet, I quietly accept most of them inside the mosque but write and discuss against them outside. I do so just to have some measure of peace and not push that tension into interpersonal relations. And indeed, once we dissent publicly, all possible interpersonal pressure is brought to bear to force us to conform.



good question. i don’t have kids, but speaking as a woman who had to grow up with this kind of mindset, i agree that it causes a profound case of cognitive dissonance. i ended up dealing with it by basically splitting my mind in two, into the western, secular mindset that says I can do anything, and the communal-muslim mindset (which to me is not the same as the more egalitarian islamic-spiritual mindset) that constantly emphasizes my status as a woman. this is clearly not healthy, but that was the only way i knew how to deal with it, until i got a brain and learned to question things and learned that i can disagree with certain traditions and still be a faithful muslim. it’s still a work in progress, but i do avoid masjids more often now and focus more on my inner spirituality, and i’m more at peace that way.

if i have a daughter one day, i would try and explain that communities and traditions are slow to change (this goes for ALL communities), and so yes, while women traditionally still sit in the back, she shouldn’t interpret this as meaning that either she is less-than or that this is the way it must always be.  it wasn’t long ago that women couldn’t vote in this country.  today men are still paid more than women for the same job.  so how would you explain that to Your daughter?  non-muslims love to apply selective amnesia to these realities when they self-righteously attack muslims for their gender issues. do muslims have a LOT more work to do?  of course…

one day things will hopefully change, and my daughter may choose to advocate for that change to occur in the masjid setup or she may not, but i would remind her to keep in mind the egalitarian principles in Islam, even if they don’t always manifest themselves in the community.  it’s not a peachy answer, but at least it’s honest, which is more than what i got growing up.



wow, no one else wants to weigh in on this topic sharpasand brought up?  i was looking forward to other people’s responses.



Muqarnas, no worries. I have someone writing an entire article about the issue raised by sharpasand. :) Stay tuned for that…



Has anyone looked at the magazines at the supermarket check-out lately? I think if I had a daughter, I would also be very worried about the demeaning messages there. Not to mention MTV and TV.



Mumina, fair enough, but I think comparing the two doesn’t answer the relevant question. And I think that what makes the mosque example fundamentally different is that it’s a spiritual space. Girls are told that sitting in the back of a room, or in a closet somewhere, or entering through the back door, is what GOD wants for them. We can criticize society and tell it to stop demeaning women, but when a given measure is justified on a religious basis, it leads to serious internal turmoil.



The masjids were created so that people can worship the the Almighty. That they could go and offer their prayers, make duas, and listen to inspiring khutbahs. Outside of this, we go so that we may learn Qur’an, learn Qur’anic arabic, or go to learn religion in general. Yet, in some masjids, it feels like the light cannot enter through the doors, life is being suffocated because of the darkness such segregation causes.

I cannot relate this experience to standing in line at the drug store, supermarket, or any other place. Being in line and staring at smut that is market driven is not the same as going to pray and having to stand in a musty dungeon listening to the prayers over a loud speaker that crackles and blurs words.



well-put asma and katseye.  i agree.  i’ll add that while i agree market-driven smut is also very harmful to young girl’s psyches, there are plenty of other female role models (CEO’s, Congresswomen, Activists, etc) out there for young girls to look up to.  they may fall victim to worshipping smut perhaps due to lack of guidance.  but ultimately, they have a choice to decide who and what they want to become.  on the other hand there is often no choice when it comes to their place in the muslim community, or extremely limited choices at best.



“we will continue to see the same patterns of behavior recycled again and again—-men (and women) looking on with ill concealed disapproval at cramped, disorganized spaces filled with chattering women and screaming children.”

I like to keep my personal space organized in normal times.

Otherwise, at the mosque, its a good idea to start seeing the women’s space as a haven - where things are clean, beautiful, private (which is why many women prefer a partition of some sort) yet connected, and where personal issues (esp. related to female anatomy) are not touched upon or even discussed during speeches.  (No one is perfect, but no one should allow themselves to offend or be manipulated in the name of religion and talking about personal issues at the mosque isn’t funny or flattering - its disturbing). This, along with taking women’s suggestions more seriously, might help with attendance and perception.

I don’t see any problem hearing the speeches or asking questions in current circumstances. Also, I think the idea of spiritual inferiority might be more apparent in some areas than other - a lot of people believe in spiritual equity so this can’t be generalized so as to point to the urgency of this problem.



I am extremely offended by this article. There is no wonder why Westerners have such horrible and misinformed impressions about Islam.I am a Black American Muslim sister since I was 16 years old. I knew Islamic etiquette even then, I learned attending the mosque on Juma is mandatory for brothers and women did not have to attend but were encouraged during the Eids. I respect the masjids.Through my 39 years of Islam I have seen the progressive work of American and non American muslim men and women. I am a Hajerra and have been to other parts of the middle east and Africa. During my Hajj one of our Black American sister’s was attacked for praying in a site that men claimed.  Muslim men from everywhere stood up for her and defended against the attack. I am a American Muslim woman and would never accept that type of abuse. The world is our masjid and we (women are here to worship Allah too).



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